Episode 456

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9th Feb 2026

HR Truth Bombs for Managers with Ashley Herd

In this episode, John sits down with Ashley Herd, a former General Counsel and HR executive turned founder of Manager Method — a movement and book that gives managers the real-world tools no one else teaches. She’s also a LinkedIn Learning instructor, podcast host, and a powerful advocate for human-first leadership.

Ashley brings a sharp legal and HR background from brands like KFC and McKinsey, and shares how those experiences opened her eyes to a problem most companies ignore: we don’t train our managers.

This conversation dives into:

  1. Why most managers are set up to fail
  2. Her signature framework: Pause. Consider. Act.
  3. How to shift from micromanagement to trust
  4. The three leadership styles: Tight Jeans, Sweatpants, and Cozy Joggers
  5. What KFC taught her about recognition and culture
  6. How to support employees during grief, loss, and hard times

If you’re a frontline manager, a senior leader, or someone trying to improve your org’s leadership culture, this episode is packed with honest insight, practical frameworks, and real empathy for the people doing the hardest job in business: managing other people.

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About the Podcast

Make It Happen Mondays - B2B Sales Talk with John Barrows
John Barrows helps sales leaders decide whether to replace or rebuild their teams for the AI era. Drawing on 25+ years with Salesforce, LinkedIn, Google, and Amazon. Weekly tactics and guests to help you sell at a consistently high level.
John Barrows helps sales leaders decide whether to replace or rebuild their teams for the AI era, drawing on 25+ years working with Salesforce, LinkedIn, Google, and Amazon. He advises CROs and VPs of Sales on AI readiness, team structure, and go-to-market strategy. He trains sales teams on the fundamentals that drive consistent performance, with or without AI.